We had conversations with two great musicians, Ms. Dar Williams and Ellen Stanley aka Mother Banjo about a virtual event happening on 1/20/21 called Steps 2021 celebrating the Inauguration and an artistic way to move forward after the dark days on the steps of the Capitol on Jan. 2, 2021. Dar had great stories about her career, touring with Joan Baez and living near Pete Seeger in Hudson Valley. Ms. Stanley tells us how she ended up in Minneapolis, and her work in the Twin Cities for the last 20 years. We play tracks by both women.