Ellie 2.0 Radio – November 4, 2019

Our highlighted idealist is Bayard Rustin, who began trying to change the world while in college and went on to be one of the most important civil rights organizers of the 20th century. The Big Interview is with me, moi, Ellie Krug; my producer Brett Johnson asks me about idealism and keeping hope in 2019 America. The C Block has me speaking about an email I received from an attendee at one of my human inclusivity trainings and how it made her think and act differently—I call it “rocket fuel” that will keep me going!