This week’s featured idealist is Ingrid Newkirk, the founder of PETA, the animal rights organization. The Big Interview is with Greta Kaul of MinnPost, who talks about Beltrami County MN’s decision to not accept refugees and who shares about being a “realist” rather than an idealist (which doesn’t mean that I didn’t urge her to think more broadly…). In the C-Block, I share about speaking at local churches and ask listeners for help in getting me in front of much “church people.” I also share about a young human whom I comforted after a recent talk at a church.